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Ricky Bobby · Â #41 Â 10-31-2017, 02:05 PM

I'm at just about 1.5 years with RegFix clips, solid operation of both front windows - I agree with cn90 - if installed properly (seating the cable fully), these should last many years - combined with new black window clips, should be all you need -

Someday when I need to do my rears (those windows barely ever get used) I will do the same -

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cn90 · Â #42 Â 08-15-2018, 11:12 PM

Hi guys,

I may look at an E70 in the future...

Questions:
- Does the E70 have the same issues of window clips like the E53?
- Any issues with E70 window regulator?

cn90 · Â #43 Â 10-14-2018, 06:57 PM

- Follow-up on post #36 above on Windows Sliding Clips.

- Just did similar Window Sliding Clips on my 2004 BMW X3 (not the same but similar idea)...

- In the photo below that I posed previously, I used a Channel Lock pliers, however, I have found an easier technique: a small C-Clamp. With the C-Clamp, tape a nut on the flat part of the C-Clamp. As you tighten the C-Clamp, use a small screw to help press the metal "ferrule" into the plastic slot.

- The reason for all this C-Clamp business is that: the "Regulator Fix" item was mfg'd with the slot smaller than factory, so it takes work to push the ferrule inward. In a way, this is better b/c when in operation, the ferrule does not pull on the tabs above (on the slider) but this is "friction fit", so the ferrule pulls on the sides of the plastic slot.

- Hope this helps...

- This is the photo that I posted last year using Channel Lock Pliers, but as mentioned above, the C-clamp makes things much easier...

Fansadox Collection - 262 - Confiscated Twins 3

Fansadox Collection - 262 - Confiscated Twins 3

FRod1981 · Â #44 Â 10-15-2018, 12:50 AM

Doing this next

cn90 · Â #45 Â 10-21-2018, 01:11 PM

An little UPDATE...

- In my previous posts, I mentioned using Channel Lock Pliers to squeeze the Cable "Ferrule" inward b/c the RegFix Plastic Clip is tight.

- Now I think it is probably easier with a small C-Clamp + Torx #15 bit.

- Just firmly squeeze it in and make sure you don't break the plastic clip.

- Photo to show the idea of C-Clamp...

StephenVA · Â #46 Â 10-22-2018, 10:09 AM

cn90 · Â #47 Â 10-24-2018, 08:49 PM

- I have a little time, so I get to the bottom of this design and why it fails the way it does...

- If you look at the photos I posted in the original thread, the factory Slider Clip was still intact, although the 2 tabs were a little bent (maybe on the way out...).

- The factory setup is that: the slot is loose and when the glass is going upward, the ferrule pulls on the 2 small tabs on the TOP of the Slider Clips, and over time, these tabs break. A better design is to have beefier tabs on the TOP of the Slider Clips!

- The ebay RegFix White Clip is somewhat interesting. I understand this is aftermarket stuff, the slot was made very tight (probably unintentional but it works in our favor!), I had to use Channel Lock Pliers to squeeze the ferrule in the slot. So for the ebay RegFix White Clip, the SIDEWAY force from the plastic material holds the ferrule in place and there is little force on the 2 tabs on the top. Anyway, this may turn out to last longer b/c the force is NOT on the 2 tabs.

- I took a random photo from the web to show the broken factory clip (Left of photo) and the ebay RegFix White Clip (Right of the photo)...

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cn90 · Â #48 Â 11-03-2018, 03:06 PM

- I forgot to make a note on the Door Panel Removal...

- The BLACK Rectangular Piece (BLUE Arrow) setup is:
a. Slides into the Door Panel
b. Snap into the Metal Prong (on the door itself)

- During removal: once you pry all the clips out, PULL the Door Panel toward you but LIFT the door UPWARD a bit to disengage the BLACK Rectangular Piece.

- During installation, my trick is...remove the BLACK Rectangular Piece from the Metal Prong: squeeze the metal prong with a pair of pliers to get the BLACK Rectangular Piece out. Now...spread the metal prong tabs outward a bit so it bites on the BLACK Rectangular Piece later. Use a small screwdriver to spread the metal prongs.

- Before you remove the BLACK Rectangular Piece, note the orientation of the BLACK Rectangular Piece (it is NOT symmetrical).

- Now install the BLACK Rectangular Piece on the Door Panel first using a bit of glue or tape to hold it in place.

- During re-installation, just push the Door Panel into the tops 5 tabs (BLUE Circles), the BLACK Rectangular Piece will snap into the metal prong.

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cn90 · Â #49 Â 11-03-2018, 06:42 PM

- A quick note on modes of failure...

1. If the Cable breaks, or the Plastic Pulley cracks, you need new window regulator.
Search forum for brand names: BMW $180; VDO $100; Amazon "Premium" brand $30 etc.

2. I just took some random photos from the internet and put them together...
- Photo on the LEFT, when glass going up, the force of the cable ferrule is on the plastic tabs on the "slider" which are broken (RED Circle).
The YELLOW Circle shows broken plastic prongs (4 of them)...but when this part fails, no big deal, window still going up and down but with a crackling noise, simply b/c the bolt is still there raising the glass up and down, even with the broken plastic prongs.

3. Photo in the MIDDLE shows broken guide rail (BLUE circle) and broken tabs (RED Circle).

4. Photo on the RIGHT shows normal setup. NOTE that when the glass is going up, the bolt is pushing on the flimsy plastic prongs, and with time, the prongs will break off. Just terrible design. You don't see this problem in the E39 5-series (different issue but no broken prongs).

For the next repair, I am thinking about placing a small rubber hose at the bottom (YELLOW Arrow) to help spread the load, minimizing the chance of broken plastic prongs...

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